August 20, 2015

"The father of a 20-year-old woman let her drown in Dubai rather than let lifeguards rescue her."

"Two rescue men were at the beach and they rushed to help the girl. However, [the father] considered that if these men touched his daughter, then this would dishonor her. It cost him the life of his daughter. The father was a strong and tall man. He started pulling and preventing the rescue men and got violent with them. He told them that he prefers his daughter being dead than being touched by a strange man."

The father was arrested.

49 comments:

tim maguire said...

It doesn't quite pass the smell test. The only way he could stop two rescuers is if they stayed together so he could reach them both or if he was close enough to his daughter to block them from all angles. Neither is plausible. Besides, if the father was so worried about strange men rescuing his daughter, why didn't he rescue his daughter?

Bob Boyd said...

Why did the strong, tall man not try rescue her himself?

john said...

I guess any attempt by the father to save his own daughter would also dishonor him.

"when suddenly, the 20-year-old girl started drowning and screaming for help"

This story is screaming BS.

Original Mike said...

Yeah, how does one man stop two?

The BubFather said...

I can't wait until the left decides it's 'important' and 'enlightened' to allow Sharia law in the United States. Life will get even more interesting.

Bay Area Guy said...

Muslim values - not really in sync with Western values.

mccullough said...

It's hard to swim in a burqa

pdug said...

"Speaking to Emirates 24|7, Lt. Col Ahmed Burqibah, Deputy Director of Dubai Police’s Search and Rescue Department, recounting some of the worst incidents he had encountered in his tenure, said that this incident took place at a beach in Dubai.

“This is one of the incidents which I cannot forget."

I heard it from a friend! It must be true. Definitely was the topic of discussion in the locker room. I don't recall the arrested father's name, no.

Bobby said...

You can't on one thread acknowledge how different their culture is than ours and then in the next fail to understand why they didn't behave like we do. I haven't read into this story since I first saw it last, but...

The father may not know how to swim- it would not be uncommon.

If they're even Emirati, the "rescue squad" are likely of low- or middle-birth from one of the five "other" (i.e., not Dubai or Abu Dhabi, who have all the money) Emirates; it's entirely possible that they're actually immigrants (UAE, like the rest of the GCC, import a lot of their workers). If the father were of high-middle social status or better, it's entirely possible that they would have been too scared to disobey him. Even if he were not, they might very well have thought he was given the location where this occurred.

The story I read indicated that he physically prevented them from rescuing her and that he was a "big man." This may have been a story the rescue guys later told to cover for their failure to save her. Or he may have punched out one and then restrained the second. I don't know. I wasn't there.

pdug said...

'When news editors across the land facing a slow news day on Monday saw the story of a father who let his daughter drown in Dubai because he “didn’t want strange men touching her”, they surely couldn’t believe their luck.

The Mail, Telegraph, Metro and even Sky News all jumped on the story, which came via Agence France Press.

Apparently the article – which originated on the website Emirates 24/7 – was from an interview in which lifeguards were asked to recount the strangest things that had happened to them. As someone who bothered to check out where it came from tells Monkey: “They mentioned this case of the Asian man who prevented his daughter’s rescue, but, and here’s the catch – it was from 1996.”

Perhaps it’s a case of any old news will do ... at least when there isn’t much news at all."

http://www.theguardian.com/media/mediamonkeyblog/2015/aug/11/mail-online-telegraphs-dubai-drowning?CMP=twt_gu

Bob Boyd said...

Too bad Ronald Reagan wasn't there that day.

buwaya said...

Bobby is right.
Lifeguards probably didn't want to make trouble as they were most likely of a "lesser breed".

lgv said...

"It's hard to swim in a burqa"

I think it was a Burkini

Blogger john said...
I guess any attempt by the father to save his own daughter would also dishonor him.

"when suddenly, the 20-year-old girl started drowning and screaming for help"

This story is screaming BS.


My red flag went up, too. Drowners don't scream for help. That's not how it happens.

AA tagged it superstition. It is not. It's religious teaching.


Thorley Winston said...
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Thorley Winston said...

The incident, if it happened, was from 1996. The officer recounting the story said that the father was prosecuted and sued. I’d be curious whether any of the journalists reporting on this story have tried to verify the public records from that time and if so whether they found anything to corroborate it. Or is this another case of “too good to verify”?

Big Mike said...

I spent my teenaged summers (fifty years ago!) as a lifeguard and pulled out a number of kids who were in trouble. No one who's drowning wastes their breath calling for help. That's why lifeguards have to ignore the flirting girls and keep their eyes moving. So I agree with john and lgv as far as my experience goes.

Except! I only guarded at pools, never on an ocean beach. Would someone caught in a rip current call for help? They aren't drowning (yet!), merely (!) being pulled rapidly out to sea. Can someone who has been a lifeguard at a beach with rip currents weigh in here?

traditionalguy said...

War on the baby bearing people ( called women in the days before enlightenment) is the first thing a satanic cult comes up with.

But Law is Law. Law protects satan's honor and stops the birth of a potential Messiah. Kill them all said king Herod.

Bobby said...

Big Mike,

I was never a lifeguard, but I surfed the waters of Huntington Beach from a very young age and have been caught in riptides before. If you're caught above water, you'll certainly be able to keep your head above water and shout for help, sure. But we were always taught to not panic, just hang on to your board and then to start paddling horizontally (i.e., parellel to the shore).

Dubai is not known for their surf, though, and I always associated riptides with strong tidal water (may or may not be true, just how I always associated it).

This could just as easily be a story made up by some Emirati who wants to mock the backwardness of whatever culture the father was supposed to be. But my point is that nothing in it seems entirely implausible to me.

gspencer said...

Good to know that the person who occupies the office of US president supports, at every turn, the ideology that is the source for this sort of thinking.

Levi Starks said...

#religion of peace.

Big Mike said...

@Bobby, you were taught what to do, and had a device that would keep you afloat. What about an untrained person without a board? OTOH, I believe that strong surf is a necessary condition for having rip currents.

mikee said...

When sharia comes to the US, can we simultaneously legislate that even us lapsed Catholics may go all Crusader on OUR nonbelievers? Fair is fair!

Bobby said...

Yeah, I don't know, because I can't really remember much from when I was not a trained swimmer or surfer- in HB, you started learning to swim before you could really even walk, and you surfed before your training wheels came off the bike.

It may just be that we're reading the "drowning and screaming for help" a bit too literally. Perhaps she swam out further than she should have, got tired and on her way back, realized that she wasn't going to make it and started screaming that she was drowning. That would be consistent with "drowning and screaming for help," while at the moment she was screaming she wasn't literally "drowning." Most people usually don't speak all that literally.

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

Priorities.

LordSomber said...

Don't they watch "Baywatch" in the Mideast?

William said...

Another red flag: would a father of such strong religious convictions take his daughter to a beach where there were men, or even allow her to wear a bathing suit, however modest.

SteveR said...

As if we need another reason....so lets be especially stupid

Bobby said...

William,

That one I actually can explain- in my experience in Dubai, it's quite common to see women wearing traditional garb on the beach. Seeing them swimming in that stuff, while less common, is not at all a rare sight. If you Google "abaya at the beach," "niqab at the beach," or "hijab at the beach," and go Image search, you're gonna see lots of ridiculous examples.

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Bobby said...

Coupe,

That's not really his fault. The Rothschilds' brainwashed and mind-controlled him. Not a lot of people know about how powerful the Rothschilds' mind-control devices really are.

William said...

@Bobby. Thanks. Still a lot of red flags, but this could have happened. There was that school fire in Saudi Arabia where the girls were forced to burn to death rather than be permitted to run out to the street in improper clothing.

CarlF said...

Coupe,

Your figures are wrong. The Iran-Iraq War killed a minimum of 800,000 Muslims. But I was unaware of Home Depots in Iraq or Iran.

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Left Bank of the Charles said...

It's easy to blame the dad, but as this sort of thing is foreseeable in Dubai, the obvious religious accommodation would be to hire Alexandra Paul, Yasmine Bleeth and Pamela Anderson as lifeguards.

SomeoneHasToSayIt said...

As Hitch said . . . Religion is not necessary for good people do good things, or for bad people to bad things, or for bad people to do good things. But for good people to do bad things, that takes Religion.

Anonymous said...

"It cost him the life of his daughter."

That is absolute bull shit. It cost the young woman her life. That evil stupid man killed her by preventing her rescue. To say "it cost him the life of his daughter", as leftists like to say, is to kill her the second time.

Etienne said...
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Anonymous said...

Left Bank of the Charles said...

It's easy to blame the dad, but as this sort of thing is foreseeable in Dubai, the obvious religious accommodation would be to hire Alexandra Paul, Yasmine Bleeth and Pamela Anderson as lifeguards.

Hard to swim with their burqas.

Nichevo said...

It at least, if the lifeguards are low status low cost quasi-slaves, and if you value your swimmers' lives, why not, for this one task, hire high status (and hopefully skilled) white Americans, some males some females, for exactly this reason? Have rescuers whom no one can resent.

jacksonjay said...

Bobby and CarlF,

Most of them Muslims killed in Irak, was killed by other Muslims in Irak! It appears to be a thing with Muslims.

Nichevo said...

You know, Coupe, I'm not sure why you're so crazy. It can't be PSTD because you were in the Air Force and there's no actual danger unless you screw up.

Achilles said...

Twice on raids in Iraq we did call-outs and women left children inside the houses. We initiated with loud things after surrounding the place and called everyone out. On most call-outs everyone came out. There were two separate times when we asked the women if everyone was out because we are sending the dogs in. They lied and said yes. The dog triggered and both kids were pulled out of beds but not too seriously hurt.

Not all cultures are equal.

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Nichevo said...

Is it like one of those pictures of Jesus where the eyes follow you wherever you go?

Nichevo said...

Achilles, did you ever come to understand why the hell they would lie? Low intelligence? They thought the kids would beat detection? Wanting to sacrifice their children to provoke a crisis? Population control? That just seems so crazy. What would they have to gain?

Drago said...

In the Crusades, many Christians were known not to bathe all that frequently. So that we can surmise that none of them would have rescued a drowning woman in water. And we all know Christians then are exactly the same as Christians now. And Christian western culture is no better than any other.

So it's all the same. We must not draw any conclusions about muslims, muslim countries or there "modern" culture.

BTW, has there been any shootings today that can be laid at the feet of every white, male, Christian, ex-military, pro-business, southern tea-party guy?

Achilles said...

Nichevo said...
"Achilles, did you ever come to understand why the hell they would lie? Low intelligence? They thought the kids would beat detection? Wanting to sacrifice their children to provoke a crisis? Population control? That just seems so crazy. What would they have to gain?"

They sacrifice their kids for propaganda. Just like hamas putting their missiles in schools. They would spread it in the mosques. There was one Intel report about them saying we were sending dogs after kids. They would also brag about how many of us they killed.

Those women were pickers though compared to the guy that circled all his kids around the front door and ran out the back. That led to the general prohibition on flashbangs for us. Funny how police in this country with far less training are still using them.

And there is always some piece of shit here like Obama or Kerry who picks it up and runs with it too. Because all of these horrible things are our fault you know.

Nichevo said...

All clever I suppose if you are devoid of morality. The only response to such tactics...well I suppose we can't do that. Unless you can manage the media somehow. Elect Dems I guess and there will be no atrocities.

Nichevo said...

To be clear, there would be no atrocities, in the sense that if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, it makes no sound.